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General Discussion / Hibish Design builds a Beta Lead clone - thoughts?
« Last post by GeorgeThern on February 14, 2024, 02:17:39 pm »
Has anyone tried the Beta Lead clone built by Hibish Design? I'm curious to know if it captures the original Beta Lead's unique tone and if it's worth investing in. Any feedback or personal experiences would be appreciated!
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General Discussion / Where is Administration forum.sunnstillshines.online ??
« Last post by Montanayxp on February 14, 2024, 06:39:06 am »
Can I contact admin??
It is about advertisement on your website.
Regards.
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General Discussion / Hibish Design builds a Beta Lead clone - thoughts?
« Last post by DanielSof on February 14, 2024, 12:37:08 am »
Has anyone tried the Beta Lead clone built by Hibish Design? How does it compare to the original Sunn Beta Lead in terms of tone and reliability? Are there any unique features or modifications that make this clone stand out? Any insights or personal experiences would be greatly appreciated.
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General Discussion / Unconventional Amplification Techniques.
« Last post by Danielhiesk on February 13, 2024, 03:26:55 am »
Has anyone experimented with unconventional amplification techniques, such as using household objects or alternative power sources, to achieve unique tones? Share your experiences and any tips for unconventional amplification setups.
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Q & A / Re: SR-30C
« Last post by Isaac on January 03, 2024, 09:58:54 am »
Ya got me. I've never heard of it, and don't know anything about it.
Good luck.
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Q & A / SR-30C
« Last post by Beerhoven on January 02, 2024, 06:23:07 am »
Good afternoon,

I was wondering if somebody could tell me anything about this amp, or suggest other areas for research.

I bought it second-hand as a kid from an ad in the paper (Durham, UK) to learn to play guitar, and then it spent the best part of 25 years in a cupboard when I started using other gear.

I don't have much information about it other than it is apparently an SR-30C and the serial number is (SR30)000086.

I can't find much online, but the closest thing I've found is a Fender Mustang SR-25 or SR-35. Though, it doesn't have the mustang branding though, and clearly says SR-30C with the Sunn logo.

It has been suggested to me that it may have come from the Mexican plant, though it says 'Made in Taiwan' on the back and lists 'Fender Musical Instruments, Brea, California' also.

It is a bit of a mystery to me, and I am trying to get as much information as possible.

Thanks

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Q & A / Re: Sunn Beta lead footswitch socket - wiring colours
« Last post by lurkanddestroy on December 21, 2023, 11:21:58 pm »
did you finally build your footswitch?
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Q & A / Re: Another 200s Amp Question
« Last post by Soundmasterg on December 09, 2023, 12:07:23 am »

Greg, I cannot thank you enough for sharing those photos and your knowledge with me! I had heard the switches were most likely unnecessary (similar to the polarity switch now that my amp has a three prong adapter). Any idea the respective years for those catalogue excerpts? I?m assuming the one is 67 as the 100s only has four knobs?

I would assume around 1967 also, but I can't be sure. The old Sunn forum site before MEF had all kinds of manuals and schematics and sales brochures at the top of the page and you could just download anything you wanted, but when the site was going away and Tboy graciously took it over, we all lost that functionality. If Conrad Sundholm (co-founder of Sunn) was still around I could ask him, but he passed earlier this year sadly.

The standby is unnecessary, but it doesn't cause any damage to use it unless you leave the amp on for days sitting in standby possibly. The muting function is useful.

The polarity switch isn't needed with a 3 prong power cord, and hopefully they got rid of the death cap and disconnected the polarity switch. The Sunns were wired up in such a way in the power supply to where if you wire it up the way it should be with the hot wire fused and switched instead of the neutral, on some amps the light in the switch no longer works. If your amp is working well though, I am sure it is fine.

Greg
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Q & A / Re: Another 200s Amp Question
« Last post by emjfox on December 08, 2023, 09:08:31 am »

Thank Ryan! And thank you so much for you answers. I had a feeling there weren't manuals haha. I did check out that catalog thread and while it was helpful, it certainly left me with plenty of questions. I will check the amp more thoroughly for dates.

One more question(s). I understand the purpose of a standby switch for warming up an amp for a minute or two, but I find it confusing on this amp as it has the same On/Off positions as the power. Which way should it be when warming up!? Haha. Up with the power or down? Should it be left in either position? I did a search on the forum, but it's odd how little I could find regarding this switch. I know there are strong opinions about these switches in general.

There used to be a whole bunch of Sunn catalogs and manuals and what not on the old Sunn forum, but they have been gone since the forum got picked up by Tboy/The MEF, probably about 20 years ago now. I'll post what I have saved for the 200S.

For tube amps that use receiving tubes (receiving tubes are what all tube guitar and bass amps use), a standby switch is not required. In some cases depending on how the standby is wired, (Korg-made Vox AC30 reissue for example) it can actually slowly damage the rectifier tube when the standby is used. One of the myths about standby is that it is necessary to stop cathode stripping, which is where the cathode is stripped of the electrons it emits faster than it can emit them, which damages the material the cathode is made of, hence shortening the life of the tube. This is not a concern though with amps that have less than 1500V in them, and even the vaunted Ampeg SVT is only at around 660V. Leo Fender was likely the first to add a standby switch to guitar/bass amps, and it was more of a servicing aid than anything else. In Denmark they actually removed the standby switch from new Fender amps before selling them there back in the day as it didn't meet their regulatory approval and was deemed unsafe.

That said, the way the standby switch functions is that when the amp is in the on mode with the power switch, the standby switch should be in the same orientation for the amp to play....so the top of the switch will be depressed in the on mode. If you want it in standby, then the standby switch should have the bottom depressed. Most people would use the standby this way > turn power on, with standby switch in the standby position, let it warm up for a few minutes, then move standby switch to play position and rock out. You can use it that way, but it is unnecessary.

Greg

Greg, I cannot thank you enough for sharing those photos and your knowledge with me! I had heard the switches were most likely unnecessary (similar to the polarity switch now that my amp has a three prong adapter). Any idea the respective years for those catalogue excerpts? I?m assuming the one is 67 as the 100s only has four knobs?
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Q & A / Re: Another 200s Amp Question
« Last post by Soundmasterg on December 07, 2023, 11:44:42 pm »

Thank Ryan! And thank you so much for you answers. I had a feeling there weren't manuals haha. I did check out that catalog thread and while it was helpful, it certainly left me with plenty of questions. I will check the amp more thoroughly for dates.

One more question(s). I understand the purpose of a standby switch for warming up an amp for a minute or two, but I find it confusing on this amp as it has the same On/Off positions as the power. Which way should it be when warming up!? Haha. Up with the power or down? Should it be left in either position? I did a search on the forum, but it's odd how little I could find regarding this switch. I know there are strong opinions about these switches in general.

There used to be a whole bunch of Sunn catalogs and manuals and what not on the old Sunn forum, but they have been gone since the forum got picked up by Tboy/The MEF, probably about 20 years ago now. I'll post what I have saved for the 200S.

For tube amps that use receiving tubes (receiving tubes are what all tube guitar and bass amps use), a standby switch is not required. In some cases depending on how the standby is wired, (Korg-made Vox AC30 reissue for example) it can actually slowly damage the rectifier tube when the standby is used. One of the myths about standby is that it is necessary to stop cathode stripping, which is where the cathode is stripped of the electrons it emits faster than it can emit them, which damages the material the cathode is made of, hence shortening the life of the tube. This is not a concern though with amps that have less than 1500V in them, and even the vaunted Ampeg SVT is only at around 660V. Leo Fender was likely the first to add a standby switch to guitar/bass amps, and it was more of a servicing aid than anything else. In Denmark they actually removed the standby switch from new Fender amps before selling them there back in the day as it didn't meet their regulatory approval and was deemed unsafe.

That said, the way the standby switch functions is that when the amp is in the on mode with the power switch, the standby switch should be in the same orientation for the amp to play....so the top of the switch will be depressed in the on mode. If you want it in standby, then the standby switch should have the bottom depressed. Most people would use the standby this way > turn power on, with standby switch in the standby position, let it warm up for a few minutes, then move standby switch to play position and rock out. You can use it that way, but it is unnecessary.

Greg

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