Is my 200S really a 190B ?and an impedance ?

[Oli]

...gosh! Wow, man, this collection is really great!  The stuff looks really "like fresh from the factory". I never played an original Sunn Box, I just have the SUNN/Fender 4x10" ones. Maybe i should build one on my own - JBL loaded.

As U have two 190B's, there is something U should try: Split the bassguitar signal and use one signal with a 190B for the "high frequency" (with some effects) and put it in cab 1 and the second signal with the second 190B just for the low frequencies in cab 2! It's a bit like vintage Byamping. I tried this last evening with two Sorados - the sound was amazing!

Is the Sonaro using EL 34 or KT88 ? - I think there were two different versions on the market.

Greetings from an impressed SUNN lover

Oli

[johnk]

the Sonaro has KT88's

john

[Isaac]

Sweet, John. Very sweet.

[Isaac]

...gosh! Wow, man, this collection is really great!  The stuff looks really "like fresh from the factory". I never played an original Sunn Box, I just have the SUNN/Fender 4x10" ones. Maybe i should build one on my own - JBL loaded.

As U have two 190B's, there is something U should try: Split the bassguitar signal and use one signal with a 190B for the "high frequency" (with some effects) and put it in cab 1 and the second signal with the second 190B just for the low frequencies in cab 2! It's a bit like vintage Byamping. I tried this last evening with two Sorados - the sound was amazing!

Is the Sonaro using EL 34 or KT88 ? - I think there were two different versions on the market.

Greetings from an impressed SUNN lover

Oli

Or get a Rickenbacker and run in "stereo".

[johnk]

As U have two 190B's, there is something U should try: Split the bassguitar signal and use one signal with a 190B for the "high frequency" (with some effects) and put it in cab 1 and the second signal with the second 190B just for the low frequencies in cab 2! It's a bit like vintage Byamping. I tried this last evening with two Sorados - the sound was amazing!
Oli

Thanks for the kind words guys!

i used to do that years ago, however the sound is so big and full just running one amp thru one cab (either one) that i am completely happy with it as it is.john

[made by hand]

 nice looking amps...they look new....just the way i like mine...enjoy....

[Johnny Guitar]

Great looking amps!    Where can you get Vinylex?  Did you clean the JBL dust caps and if so what did you use?  And does anybody have suggestions on cleaning up speakers?  Thanks,
Johnny G.

[johnk]

Thanks!
Vinylex is available at some auto stores. and no, i didn't clean the aluminum dust caps as they are way to thin an fragile. the 2-15 cab (under the 190B) has fresh JBL factory recones on them so they look brand new.

john

[Oli]

...gosh! Wow, man, this collection is really great!  The stuff looks really "like fresh from the factory". I never played an original Sunn Box, I just have the SUNN/Fender 4x10" ones. Maybe i should build one on my own - JBL loaded.

As U have two 190B's, there is something U should try: Split the bassguitar signal and use one signal with a 190B for the "high frequency" (with some effects) and put it in cab 1 and the second signal with the second 190B just for the low frequencies in cab 2! It's a bit like vintage Byamping. I tried this last evening with two Sorados - the sound was amazing!

Is the Sonaro using EL 34 or KT88 ? - I think there were two different versions on the market.

Greetings from an impressed SUNN lover

Oli

Or get a Rickenbacker and run in "stereo".

... ...got no Rickenbacker. Did U ever try this?

[Isaac]

I have several Rics. They're not the only basses that run 'stereo', but they're the best known.

I've experimented with the Ric-O-Sound. Ideally, in my opinion, it should be done with two amps one on either side of the drummer. That's too much gear to schlep around on a regular basis, and takes up a lot of stage space.

However, back in my pro days, my amp went out, so I plugged directly into the PA board to get through the gig. It sounded good, if a little weak on the low end. Since I was going straight into the board, I made a stereo cable and used two channels, panning them full left and right. I thought it sounded great, but I doubt anyone but me ever noticed. Most people aren't really into subtlety, they just want a beat they can dance to. I might use it when I record my next album. Again, probably no one will notice.

[basiklybass]

A soft cloth and any aluminum polish....along with a soft touch can be used to brighten up the domes. Do not push, use a circular motion and just gently touch them. Roll the cloth into a tube about 1/2" to 3/4". Take your time and you can restore them to nearly new.
As far as cleaning old speakers, about the same except use water with a squirt of detergent. Brush it on with a soft brush and then swirl the brush around the cone several times. Very gently wipe from center out with a soft cloth. It is easy to wipe too hard and actually remove some of the paper so gentle is the word. Let it dry completely  for a couple days before using. You may have to do it again if the cone is especially dirty. When the whole cone is wetted, there will be no water lines when dried.
If you want your cones darker, water down some high grade black ink and paint them. Ink weighs virtually nothing once dried as opposed to paint.  How much you dilute the ink will effect the depth of color on the cone. You have to use high grade ink becuase cheap ink will look reddish after it dries. I sometimes add a doppup of a flexible water soluble glue in the mix if the cone is brittle.
If the surround has acculmulated lots of debris, a medium bristle brush with some acetone will soften and remove a lot of the stuff. Again, and as always, take your time, work slowly and don't expect one pass to make it look new.

[Oli]

I've experimented with the Ric-O-Sound. Ideally, in my opinion, it should be done with two amps one on either side of the drummer. That's too much gear to schlep around on a regular basis, and takes up a lot of stage space.

Did U use the same settings on the two amps?

[Isaac]

Did U use the same settings on the two amps?

I never actually did it with two amps. I did it directly into the PA, and yes, I used identical settings. My thought was that the different character of the pickups should provide the 'stereo' effect.

The downside is that, if you switch to different pickups for a change in tone, you also switch sides of the stage. Less than ideal, IMO. I think the stereo effect is best used for recording.

[Oli]

Did U use the same settings on the two amps?

I never actually did it with two amps. I did it directly into the PA, and yes, I used identical settings. My thought was that the different character of the pickups should provide the 'stereo' effect.

The downside is that, if you switch to different pickups for a change in tone, you also switch sides of the stage. Less than ideal, IMO. I think the stereo effect is best used for recording.

So, U need 4 amps,  ...two on each side one for high, one for the lower part... ...just kidding. I saw a picture somewhere on this page: Four 2000S on one single stage plus box....uuh!

Do U plug the Rick into the D.I. and then to the mixer for recording?