412L Too Bassy?

[Walt-Dogg]

So I picked up a 412L a month or two ago and I love it, but it seems that as I crank the volume on my Concert Lead, the cab's bass response gets really high, there is almost no bite and it sounds muffled, don't get me wrong it's loud, it's just that the bass outweighs the treble. I'm guessing it either has to do with the cab being so big or maybe my settings, which are all around 7.

[John Matrix]

I have that same set up and noticed the same thing. I hit the "bright" switch and turn the bass down a little if I'm playing harder edged stuff as opposed fuzzed out slowness. I noticed that using the "distort" function adds a lot of bass. I usually use a Boss DS1 in addition to the amp distortion to get more grit.

One thing to keep in mind is that I live in an apartment and don't have a jam spot right now so I rarely get the opportunity to crank it up to a fun volume level anyways (although my downstairs neighbor just got evicted so I reckon I got about a month thunder coming my way!)

[rot gut]

bass should always be at 10.

[Walt-Dogg]

The Brite switch is an ear splitter to me. And so I've noticed with the distortion.

At quieter volumes (0-1.5) turning the bass high and EQing the rest of the amp to that sounds goods, albeit a little weak but not bad. But once you roll it to a little past 2 the bass is insane even after rolling the bass back it still sounds deep and muffled

[HRobert]

bass should always be at 10.

No...Bass could be lower.....but volume has to be set a 11.  Spianl Tap

[Walt-Dogg]

No seriously. I play my Concert Lead out of a smaller or a slant cab and the bass isn't an issue. inb4 get a different cab, because I'm not about to get rid a matching 412L in good condition. Anything I could do to the interior of the cab.

[Walt-Dogg]

Well since the cab wasn't on casters, I put it on a dolly, that seems to help, but there's still a bit a low end flub. I'm gonna go put legit casters on it sometime next week, but that will only help a little.

[Walt-Dogg]

Got the casters on already, less bassy, is there any insulation I can put in the cab?

[xsolarusx]

Dude, I totally agree with you. It's pretty over-sized, and it's actually rad for bass, which lends itself to the problem.

I recorded my Model T through it and noticed all the surplus low-end happening. It isn't necessarily bad, but can really flatten your sound if you don't roll the bass back a bit.

Does yours not have the pop-out casters? I thought they came standard.

[stanner]

i use my 412L w/ model Ts and the sound is heavenlee deep and really projects.
course my guitar is tuned really low-so, just throwin a little lov out there for the big box.

[Walt-Dogg]

Dude, I totally agree with you. It's pretty over-sized, and it's actually rad for bass, which lends itself to the problem.

I recorded my Model T through it and noticed all the surplus low-end happening. It isn't necessarily bad, but can really flatten your sound if you don't roll the bass back a bit.

Does yours not have the pop-out casters? I thought they came standard.

No I think the owner previous to the owner I bought it from took them out as there were sets of holes for casters, for pop out casters and it came with a set of casters but they weren't mounted so I just put my own pop-out casters in the larger set of holes that were already drilled.

So does anyone think putting in some fiberglass insulation will help reduce the bass? The casters help and so does lowering the bass control, but I want to be able to turn the bass up a bit without getting a lot of flub because with the bass rolled back to where I have it, there isn't enough bass but if I add any more it gets WAY too deep sounding.

[NsubUlysses]

bass should always be at 10.

iz right

[Walt-Dogg]

Thanks...

[foxfire]

it can't hurt to try slapping some insolation/foam in there. i just removed the fiberglass from my 2 old ampeg cabs, and replaced it with egg crate foam...i used foam cause i hate fiberglass. whether or not it helped the sound any i can't say cause the cabs have always had something in there. it shouldn't take that much time to try it, and even if it doesn't make it sound "better" as long as it doesn't make it sound "worse" you can leave it in there...