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Sunn Musical Equipment => Q & A => Topic started by: PBman on March 01, 2010, 03:45:42 pm
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Where can I find a yard or so of grill cloth. It's for a 200s cab
Thanks
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There are threads on this topic (no pun intended). The most recent one I remember seeing is in the Conrad section:
http://sunn.ampage.org/sdp/index.php/topic,4122.0.html
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Where can I find a yard or so of grill cloth. It's for a 200s cab
Thanks
I bought my grill cloth from Mojo Sound, Mojotone.com.
I used their # 6301005 Fender style Black/Silver/White. Its a medium weight cloth and I found it great to work with. It comes in 3' widths and the retangular pattern runs the length of the bolt. For a 200S cab you'll need 2 yards. To see the cloth, look at my Sentura II project in the DIY section the Sunn discussion page.
Rob
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I just contacted Conrad and he is selling me both the grill cloth and tolex. I think he must have a lot left over from the sunn days.
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I just contacted Conrad and he is selling me both the grill cloth and tolex. I think he must have a lot left over from the sunn days.
You can still get the tolex, and the grille cloth for the later era Sunns was very similar to what Fender was using. The early Sunn grille cloth is not available. I think Conrad is going to be stocking the Sunn tolex and later grille cloth for those who want it. I saw him last week and thats what he was saying if I remember right. (We were at a jam so my attentino was a bit distracted.)
Greg
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Yo Greg,
What's the bestr way to contact Conrad
Thanks
Rich
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I just purchased two yards of Mellotone grill coth directly from Wendell Fabrics down in SC (www.wendellfabrics.com). They manufacture it and sell it direct. They even sent sample 8 x 10 samples to me to confirm a match against my two 412s cabinets that need new grills. They have photos of a few of their choices on their website but after I spoke to Bill Swank in sales and told him what I was covering he new exactly what samples to send and the one that matched (FN-5660-21) was not shown on their website. He also confirmed that they had most likely supplied the original fabric for these '70's vintage cabinets. Check them out!
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I just purchased two yards of Mellotone grill coth directly from Wendell Fabrics down in SC (www.wendellfabrics.com). They manufacture it and sell it direct. They even sent sample 8 x 10 samples to me to confirm a match against my two 412s cabinets that need new grills. They have photos of a few of their choices on their website but after I spoke to Bill Swank in sales and told him what I was covering he new exactly what samples to send and the one that matched (FN-5660-21) was not shown on their website. He also confirmed that they had most likely supplied the original fabric for these '70's vintage cabinets. Check them out!
I think Mr. Sundholm has posted that the original was from Wendell. FN-5660-21 you say?
I've bought SF-7005, and it's a pretty close match for the 70's grill cloth; about 99%. It's hard to tell because the grills I was replacing were pretty weathered. I sure would like to get a peek at FN-5660-21!
Can you post a pic?
Thanks!
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Ed:
Please don't misquote me...I did not get this info from Conrad. I did get it directly from the fabric manufacturer. The FN-5660-21 is a perfect match if you want to keep the aged look of your existing grills. I would encourage you to contact Bill Swank at Wendell Fabrics directly to order sample swatches so you can judge for yourself. I will post photos once I get the new grills on my two 412s cabinets. Peace...
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and the price per yard was?
Thanks
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Just call and ask the guy actually selling it...
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Ed:
Please don't misquote me...I did not get this info from Conrad. I did get it directly from the fabric manufacturer. The FN-5660-21 is a perfect match if you want to keep the aged look of your existing grills. I would encourage you to contact Bill Swank at Wendell Fabrics directly to order sample swatches so you can judge for yourself. I will post photos once I get the new grills on my two 412s cabinets. Peace...
Sorry you misunderstood my post. I wasn't misquoting you, I was just pointing out that I believed Conrad Sundholm and Bill Swank are on the same page as far as Wendell providing the original grill cloth.
I am a little agitated that I purchased SF7005 if there is a closer match with FN-5660-21, but truthfully it was so many years ago that I forget whether or not I just ordered it or if they actually advised me that SF7005 was correct.
Now if we could just get some early "sparkle" grill cloth...
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The current cost is ~$20/yard plus S&H for the 72" width. Minimum order is 2 yards for 72" width. It is also available in 36" width at like ~$10/yard but the minimum order is 10 yards. If you want it to look like brand new then maybe the type recommended by EdBass would be the best choice but if you are going for a vintage look I'd recommend the FN-5660-21 since it has a yellowed hue to it (still has some silver sparkle threads).
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Actually talked to Bill, great guy and willing to help. Keep in mind, $19.95 per yard on gthe 72" goods. 2 yrad min order plus there's a $5 handling fee under 5 yards. Still way better than paying $40/ yard at some of the catalog houses
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Yo Greg,
What's the bestr way to contact Conrad
Thanks
Rich
Hi Rich,
Just go to his site and email him or call him. He's out of town until next week right now however.
Greg
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HI Greg
I contacted the company that makes the cloth and they are very helpful and willing to sell a couple yards at a time. I'm only going to use one so I may ask back on the forum if anyone would want the second yard
Rich
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Good deal Rich. I don't need any myself but maybe others might.
greg
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Here is the mellotone grill cloth. I have about twenty yards left of the sf7005. I use it on speaker cabs.It suits my purpose. Its been a few years. I think the other pics was the fn5660 that wendell sent me. I still have the big sample card of the sf7005. But only have a small sample of the darker one, Does the darker one look like the fn5660 you have gotten? The sf7005 has a slight gray thread in it. And the other has a darker gray thread giving it a darker aged color.
(http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q419/akindlespa/Sunn%20Speaker%20Grill%20Cloth/sf7005.jpg)
(http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q419/akindlespa/Sunn%20Speaker%20Grill%20Cloth/fn5660.jpg)
(http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q419/akindlespa/Sunn%20Speaker%20Grill%20Cloth/sfandfn.jpg)
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The FN-5660-21 has a more yellow hue to it to make it look "aged". It is a perfect match against the grills in my two 1970's 412s which I assume are the originals and that is why I went with it over the others. If your goal is a vintage look go then with the 5660 but if you are replacing the tolex and trying to restore your amp to look like new then the 7005 is probably a better choice.
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Update...I received my two yards of 72" wide FN5660-21 from Wendell Fabrics this week. It came via UPS ground rolled onto a large cardboard roll. Total cost was $19/yard plus a $10 handling charge plus $17.31 for shipping for a total of $65.31. I should have plenty of material to recover my two speaker cabinets and enough left over for a couple of more cabinets. I'll try to post photos for the final result when I find the time to get around to recovering them.