Author Topic: 1976 Concert Bass Mid Range Control  (Read 2241 times)

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1976 Concert Bass Mid Range Control
« on: March 11, 2004, 05:02:55 pm »
I have this 1976 Concert Bass head and the only problem I seem to have with it is the mid range control. It seems to act as if it were wired in series with the bass and treble controls. Example: turn all the tone controls to 0 - then turn up only only the bass and you get bass - turn up only the treble and you get treble - turn up only the midrange and you get nothing. Now turn up only the bass and adjust the midrange and you can hear the difference, the same goes for the treble control. Is this normal for this amp or should I have a tech look at it? The reason I question this is that my other 3 SUNN heads of the same era do not have this glitch Please e-mail me if you have any info. Thanks.
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1976 Concert Bass Mid Range Control
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2004, 05:56:17 pm »
The tone control circuit used in the concert series is the same circuit that Sunn used in the 2000s.  It's a modified "tone stack".  Very basically...

The treble frequencies are split out through a separate path and the Treble control is wired in a "cut only" type fashion - opposite of the normal Fender/Marshall tone stack.  The output signal is taken off the Treble control just line the more common tone stack.

The bass/middle frequencies go a separate path.  The Middle control is first in the line and it is wired as a "treble cut" with a lower cutoff frequency than the Treble control.  After that, the signal proceeds to the Bass control portion, and then to join the treble frequencies at the Treble control.

There is a small resistor in the Bass circuit that attempts to leave a little of the signal in when the Bass control is at zero, but for most purposes, the Middle control will have very little effect at a zero bass setting because very little signal is actually going through to the Treble control.  Turning the Bass control up a bit will make the Middle control have more response.

I suggest starting out with a Bass setting of 2, a Treble setting of 10, and set the Middle control to whatever sounds good first.  The Treble should be reduced to get a mellower tone if necessary.  Then set the Bass control to whatever sounds good.  At least this is the way I do it.

It doesn't sound like a glitch - just the way the circuit works.

As for your other heads... you didn't say what they were.  The Beta series have an active middle control that has a separate path to the output and the Bass and Treble sides each have a separate path... so this type of circuit will be less interactive than the concert circuit or something with the Fender/Marshall style tone circuit (like a Model-T).

Hope this helps.