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Offline xaaronx

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Concert Lead head - red knob
« on: November 10, 2010, 03:00:23 pm »
ran across one of these at a local pawn shop for a ridiculous price ($600..), but i have a few questions:

1. this is a guitar head, correct? i thought i've read of people using these for bass but want to make sure it would make do because that is what i would be using it for.

2. what would be an ideal bass cab setup with this head?

3. what would be a fair offer for the pawn shop that has this? i thought i've seen these go for like 200-300.

Offline Walt-Dogg

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Re: Concert Lead head - red knob
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2010, 06:49:11 pm »
1. Yes a guitar head, also an amazing bass head because it's a very deep sounding amp with very deep sounding distortion as well.

2. Ampeg 8x10 or a Sunn 215B.

3. Depending on the condition, $400 is a good offer for good condition. And that's provided it works.
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Offline xaaronx

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Re: Concert Lead head - red knob
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2010, 09:41:33 pm »
thank you. much appreciated. i may print off a complete ebay auction and bring it in to them because i haven't found one over 300 yet.

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Re: Concert Lead head - red knob
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 02:03:14 pm »
I've been playing around with a Concert Lead for a couple of weeks now, and I'm not sure if I wholeheartedly agree. I have a red knob version, plugged into a 4ohm 4x10 ampeg cab, and it's not quite loud enough in band practice. The volume jump is really great from like 2 to 3, but sorta evens out after that. I really like the sound on the A, D and G strings, but the low E gets way more solid rumble than tone + rumble. I don't know, maybe I'm just not dialing in the right sound, would appreciate any help anyone's willing to offer. Using it for a fast hardcore band, if that's any help.

For guitar it's amazing, tho.

Offline grimniggzy

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Re: Concert Lead head - red knob
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 02:33:19 pm »
Eppilogue, you may be muddying up your signal by using the knobs on the front. Try plugging into the back of the amp where it says "power amp in" and use your pedals for eq'ing while using the heads power more fully (also all your knobs could be set to zero and it wouldn't matter). This basically erases the preamp of your head and should help round out your sound and give you WAY more volume and a more full sound depending on what pedals you're running. Also you could essentially do this with just your guitar/bass and that would be fine as well just be careful with that volume knob for your speakers sake.
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Re: Concert Lead head - red knob
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 09:40:02 am »
I've been playing around with a Concert Lead for a couple of weeks now, and I'm not sure if I wholeheartedly agree. I have a red knob version, plugged into a 4ohm 4x10 ampeg cab, and it's not quite loud enough in band practice. The volume jump is really great from like 2 to 3, but sorta evens out after that. I really like the sound on the A, D and G strings, but the low E gets way more solid rumble than tone + rumble. I don't know, maybe I'm just not dialing in the right sound, would appreciate any help anyone's willing to offer. Using it for a fast hardcore band, if that's any help.

For guitar it's amazing, tho.
Try turning the bass down. Bass sucks a lot of power, to move all that air at low frequencies. It's also possible that your Ampeg cabinet isn't designed to go that low, so you're pumping power into the cabinet that isn't going to do anyone any good. Midrange frequencies cut through the mix better, too. So I think you'll find that you'll get a lot more volume with the bass turned down, and the sound should be just as good in a band context.
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Offline Eppilogue

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Re: Concert Lead head - red knob
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 10:50:53 am »
Cool, thanks for the tips. That actually sounds pretty reasonable. I got a Sansamp bassdriver I'm gonna play around with a bit, hopefully I'll figure out some cool settings.

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Re: Concert Lead head - red knob
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 11:09:29 am »
You'll get guaranteed results plugging that Bass Driver into the "power amp in" input on the back of the amp.

Try it into the front of the amp first then compare that to the sound you get once you plug into the "power amp in".
Things you should notice: an obvious bump in volume/fullness,
much clearer sound with less extra noise,
& more power than you thought this amp could push out.
You'll be a happy man come show time.

Just be really careful with the volume knob on the Sansamp.
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