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Offline basiklybass

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Re: JBL D140 f
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2008, 11:53:56 am »
JohnK: The D130's have a paper surround while the D130F's have cloth. Is this what you are referring to? The D130's I have done are very low power speakers, in the range of 30 to 50  watts. Anything more and the paper surround just doesn't move enough. But in the right cabinet, with 25 watts, a D130 sounds amazing. I like the K's as well, but aside from weight, can't really hear any difference with the E's. JBL says they are the same performance wise, the E's do handle more power but there were advances in adhesives and material in the time between series, not to mention manufacturing machinery and QC. I also like the round shim, it does make it easier....but I would not go quite as far as to say idiot proof. Care and patience are still needed as well as cleanliness. As long as we are talking a pre-assembled kit. It is another story when there is no kit and you have to cut the VC opening to the right size, set the VC depth, make sure everything is aligned and then glue it all....like you have to do with all Sunn labeled speakers.

George: $99.00 plus shipping for a de-mag, re-mag and recone....don't know how they can do it. Even lower quality aftermarket parts run in the $35.00 to $45.00 range. Takes around an hour to do a complete job and that is without de-magging, etc. Considering that nearly eveyone else in the country charges in the $125.00 range without mag work...and in the $225.00 range for original cones....makes you wonder.


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Re: JBL D140 f
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2008, 12:30:14 pm »
Hi basiklybass,
IIRC the difference between a D130 and a D130F is that the BOTH have paper surrounds but the D130F has a "treated" surround. at least that's the way that all of them that i have seen are. apparently the edges weren't holding up well in a fender amp so they treated the edges with a rubber-like compound.  i believe that, when they went to the K series, the surround was treated cloth. and the same goes for the E series.

When I installed a factory kit, it was a very simple process to do. yes, cleanliness had to be maintained, but the cone and voice coil aligned and fit the speaker basket perfectly. i have never installed an aftermarket kit.

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Re: JBL D140 f
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2008, 06:14:29 pm »
Yep, factory kits are great, they save so much time. I just aquired 10 Celestion Vintage 30 kits fo rthat reason. About 50% more than parts, but the time savings is worth it. Now I just have to find the blown speakers. If anyone knows of anyone...

I believe you are correct regarding the surrounds although I have seen some, and read something about the end of series D's having cloth. So hard to tell if an old speaker had an early recone. It is possible it was a D reconed with a K. I remember having D's, K's and Altecs reconed while they were still current models. No reason to think it might not be a 30 year old recone, but I think you are correct. I wonder what the run numbers were as far as how many were made in what years? Serial numbers don't help. Wonder if Harvet Gerhst has that info...ahhh....another thing to search for on the web.