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Offline loudthud

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Re: ss rectifier
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 10:55:53 am »
The 1200S SS rectified schematic is posted here:

http://www.el34world.com/charts/Schematics/Sunn_1200s.pdf

Go to the index here: http://www.el34world.com/charts/Diagrams.htm
and there are several other Sunn schematics including the 2nd gen Model T.

Offline noel

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Re: ss rectifier
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2008, 11:26:23 am »
Thanks for the link!  I had stumbled on this myself just a few hours ago.  Kind of an interesting rectifier because it isn't a traditional bridge rectifier.  One problem I have with it is that no values seem to be present on the diodes.  A diode should have a current and voltage rating as far as I know but none is specified.  It also looks like the yellow leads on the transformer don't go anywhere on the 1200s schematic.  This seems wrong.  So I guess my question is: now that I have a ss rectified circuit (presumably the same as in the 2000s), how do I transplant it into the schematic I have (2000s)?
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Offline Soundmasterg

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Re: ss rectifier
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2008, 04:03:35 pm »
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So I guess my question is: now that I have a ss rectified circuit (presumably the same as in the 2000s), how do I transplant it into the schematic I have (2000s)?

If you're going to be messing around with an amp of this nature, then you should have enough knowledge to figure this out for yourself. AC wiring can be extremely dangerous (lethal) if not done correctly, and the same with the DC wiring inside the amp. Basically, the solid state diodes go into the 2000S in place of the GZ34 wiring, but you have to have some knowledge to know what to snip and clip and what to keep. If you haven't yet, read some books on amp design like the Kevin O'Connor series of books, Dave Funk's Tube Amp Workbook, the Gerald Weber books, the Jack Darr book, etc. If you read enough and really study it, you'll gain the knowledge to do this yourself, and you will be able to do it safely too.

For the diodes used, a 1N4007 would be just fine wherever they call for a diode. Back in the day, they didn't specify parts as completely as they do these days. The yellow leads may not be needed so they are just tied and taped off. Often a transformer would be purchased for a design that would have been used for another purpose because the price was good, and they would just use the parts of it that they needed.

If you were building from scratch and wanted to do this the easiest way, build the amp for tube rectification, and then use Weber Copper Caps in place of the tube rectifiers. He makes some that are just like solid state diodes in addition to the ones that emulate tube voltage drop. Then you can use either/or....whichever suits you. Since you already have the amp, and it is setup for solid state, I'd just roll with it as is.

Greg

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Re: ss rectifier
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2008, 08:59:29 pm »
Thanks again for the replies and PM's guys!  I'd like to clarify somewhat:  I'm a mechanical engineer with background in EE.  I've done projects like this in the past but I'm not so bold to say that I'm an expert.  I have a good understanding but I ask questions for the reasons stated...it can be dangerous.  So I always appreciate feedback from you guys that might have encountered this specific problem before.  The other is that I do own this amp and it is SS already (no conversion).  However, I bought it as a project with some components missing.  That's why I'm so gung-ho about a schematic.  That way I can trace each component against what the original schematic calls for.  Chances are the rectifier wouldn't have been messed with but I want to be careful.