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Offline Keith Collins

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biamp Sunn Model 10s
« on: February 09, 2001, 11:45:00 am »
Does anyone know which crossover settings to use for Sunn Model 10 PA cabs when biamping?  I would love to find any manuals or details about these.

Offline alandrokk

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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 03:42:32 pm »
I just happened across a pair of these last week and would also like some info on them as I can't find any information about them.  Mine have white vinyl on the horn and down the sides, and will blast your face off if you wish them do to so.  The serial numbers are A 03272 and A 03200 and information about year and what speakers came in them stock would be appreciated.  I have a photo but my devices hate me.

Offline loudthud

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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 04:20:27 pm »
Here's some info from the August 1, 1978 Master Parts List.

81-0137-00-90.........12" 16 ohm (Model 10, 12, Alpha Monitor)
81-0294..................Driver Model 8, 10, 12, Coliseum Monitor (Beta 105H)
81-0285.................."Cartridge Assembly"

I'm thinking the cartridge assembly is the replacement diaphram for the HF driver.

Offline alandrokk

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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 12:30:30 pm »
Any one got any advice on which vintage pa or mixer to use with these?  I am just now starting to look and would like to get some ideas on stuff to look for as I don't really know yet what to look for.  Was thinking about a new Mackie PPM1008, would this work well? I would really like to have something from the same era.

Offline HRobert

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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 02:59:06 pm »
Alan,

If you're interested in a vintage mixer look at the older Biamp 80's vintage equipment. I personally prefere the Biamp over the Sunn mixers of the day.

After Conrad, the founder of Sunn, sold Sunn to the Hartzel Corp, he and another gentleman started Biamp Systems - making mixers, power amps, electronic crossover, graphic equalizers, compressors, etc. - that were really excellent. My suggestion would be to find a good condition Biamp 83 series mixer console - 883 ( 8 channel), 1283 ( 12 channel), 1683 ( 16 channel ).

The 83 series has for each channel a pad/trim control, one effects send ( post fade and EQ),one monitor send ( pre fade and EQ ), 3 EQ ( Low, Mid, & High ) pan for the subs, and a slide fader.  It can be used mono, or as I use it, in stereo using the sub 1 and 2 as L&R outs. If you get the 21 series, there are more options in the master section, and an added aux out ( post fade and EQ ), and 4 band of EQ per channel, but its a lot heavier.  The Biamp 42 series is even bigger and weighs a ton.  I think it was meant more for studio use.

I've used Biamp mixers and power amps exclusively since 1981 and have had no problems with them what so ever. I used them professionally 5-6 nights per week on the road and never had a problem with any of the equipment.  I presently own two Biamp mixers of early 80's vintage - a 1683, and an 883R 8 channel rackmount, and both work great and are clean and quiet to this day. The only negative thing that I have to say about the Biamp mixers is that the built in reverb is rather tinny and cheap sounding.  It's almost as if putting a reverb in the mixers was an afterthought. I always used outboard effects such as a couple of Roland RE-301 chorus Echos,  so I never used the onboard reverb.  Other than the reverb, I think that mixers sound great.

I also have two Biamp stereo power amps - a TC-120 ( 120 watts into 8 ohms and 200 watts into 4 ohms ), a TC-60 ( which is 1/2 the power of the 120 at both loads) and a Biamp SM-23 stereo two way electronic crossover. All are original and work fine. The power amps sound good and are very dependable, but are rather old school and weigh more than amps today. You can buy lighter amps today that put out more power.  That's just my input on the subject. If you have any more questions, email me at Kurzpiano88@aol.com

Rob
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Offline mckinnon audio

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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 03:36:01 pm »
  I really liked the Biamp Quad Limiter,they were real handy to use with small consoles that didn't have a pad on the input.Mel.

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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 11:57:35 am »
How about a Sunn px2108?  Think this would be good to go with the model 10's?  Really I just want to make sure I get something good and not just something.  Looking for the biamps but not finding much.   
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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 06:28:12 pm »
How about a Sunn px2108?  Think this would be good to go with the model 10's?  Really I just want to make sure I get something good and not just something.  Looking for the biamps but not finding much.   
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THe reason that you don't find many on the market is that musicians are discovering jut how good those 80's Biamp mixers are.

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Re: biamp Sunn Model 10s
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 06:04:09 am »
Picked up a biamp 829 yesterday.  Should arrive sometime next week.  Thanks for the input on the matter, it is appreciated.