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Offline Stonah

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Unidentified Beta Lead problem?!
« on: August 19, 2011, 03:04:04 am »
So as the title says i'm experiencing weird behaviour from my beta lead, and since i'm really no tech expert i'm hoping to get some kind of advice here from you pro's.
So...everything was working perfectly and yesterday i was playing it clean, just the guitar plugged in and works like a charm, then after some time i connected also the big muff fuzz and some boss phaser pedal and the bypass signal working but when i turned any of those two pedals on, nothing happens, complete silence...and yes both pedals work cause i tried them on my other amp.
It seems when i turn any pedal on that the signal is just not going through the beta lead, i really don't know, but then again i remember some 5-6 months ago when i just started using phaser pedal on it and then later playing without it, sometimes the amp would make little phasing sounds when turned on and when guitar would be connected...not sure if that has anything to do with this now?!
I don't know what to do, and the problem is even worse cause here where i live there is absolutely none tech guy who could help me or anything, so if any of you has some clue what it might be, please share it with me cause i love my beta lead to death  :-)

Offline MammothVolume

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Re: Unidentified Beta Lead problem?!
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 12:23:09 am »
Check your cabling. The Big Muffs have reversed input-outputs, it's real easy to confuse what's going where.

As for the amp retaining signal from the phaser, I couldn't explain that.

I know that both of my beta leads would make some sort of octaving effect if you bumped it while playing it, so I went in and had someone play it while I poked around with a NON CONDUCTIVE CHOP STICK, until I found out what did it. Jiggling the wiring harness made it make some funky noises, perhaps you should secure it, and see if it continues to do that.

I doubt the big muff could be overloading the input, I do it every day with mine...

Offline Stonah

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Re: Unidentified Beta Lead problem?!
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 03:21:00 am »
I'm sure that i connected the pedal in the right way, tried everything again yesterday  and it's all the same, really unbelievable. But then i was thinking if the problem might be the speakers, cause my beta is connected on a trace elliot combo and i'm using the speakers from it. To make trouble worse, this trace elliot combo when i disconnect the beta lead has exactly the same problem, when played straight without any pedals, works great but when you turn pedal on...dead, complete silence!
It doesn't make any sense really cause, if the speaker works, it works, if it doesn't work, it doesn't...right? Could it be possible that the speaker works on a clean signal but when you change the signal with any effect it doesn't!?

Offline buzzsunn

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Re: Unidentified Beta Lead problem?!
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 05:38:19 am »
nothing happens, complete silence...and yes both pedals work cause i tried them on my other amp.

To make trouble worse, this trace elliot combo when i disconnect the beta lead has exactly the same problem, when played straight without any pedals, works great but when you turn pedal on...dead, complete silence!

I think something's wrong and definitely NOT your Beta!!!
Try the pedals again. One at each time. As well as all the cables you use batteries etch.
Your amp is fine!
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Offline george

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Re: Unidentified Beta Lead problem?!
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 11:23:57 pm »
bad/intermittent cable or finger trouble

Offline loudthud

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Re: Unidentified Beta Lead problem?!
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 03:50:40 pm »
Be sure to use a straight mono phone plug on the input jacks to the Beta Lead. The Beta Lead input jacks are stereo jacks but the amp uses the second contact (called the ring in telephone jargan) to detect when a plug is inserted and turn on the channels LED as well as enabling that channel. Just like most Effects use a stereo jack on the input to connect the battery when a guitar in plugged in.

It sure sounds like you have the input and output reversed. The effects with a true bypass would pass a signal when disabled but not when the Effect was turned on.

Offline Stonah

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Re: Unidentified Beta Lead problem?!
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2011, 06:25:46 am »
Hey guys, thanks on your advices!
It seems that my problem resolved itself as a mistery, cause couple of days later i came in the rehearsal room, turned the amp on, poot my foot on a fuzz switch and deep inside i was hoping for a miracle to happen and voila...it worked and everything is back to normal and i didn't change a thing, all the same cables, connected in the same way...really strange but cool!

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