Transducer 1016G speaker/Sunn Model 2 /added pic link /possible guitar speaker?

[fartheststar]

HI all,  I have a couple Sunn Model 2 PA cabinets.  The speakers in them are Sunn Transducer 1016G, 8ohm, 40rms W, part # 81-0110.   

I've seen these speakers online used in guitar amps (like Fender Princeton w/ slightly different part #) - so I'm kindof wondering if the speakers are in fact intended to be guitar speakers?   (the "G" in the 1016G makes me wonder). 

One of the speakers is broken (infinite resistance on the multimeter).  I'm probably not skilled enough to recone it  - so am looking for a replacement speaker.  Has anybody else done this - any suggestions for a good match?  I looked on a speaker replacement site at woofers and there was nothing with the spec (had one model listed - and it was out of stock).  Any places you guys like to shop for replacements?  If it is in fact a guitar speaker I guess I should replace with a modern guitar speaker for match?

thanks in advance.

edit:  added attachment with photo of back of speaker for reference...  Here's thelink to photo

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/fartheststar/sunn_transducer_1016Gb_reduce2.jpg

[fartheststar]

Actually - I wanted to add to this after finding a post about the Sunn Transducer 108G speaker that has the same listed spec and part number as the 1016G I have.   I was reading some posts on this forum about DC resistance - and found one saying that normally DC resistance comes in at around 2/3 of the speaker impedence and that the 108G was supposed to be 8ohm and DC meter had it coming in around 6ohm. 

Well on the 1016G I have it tests at about 10ohm - so I'm thinking it may be possible based on naming convention this is a 16 ohm speaker instead of the 8ohm listed on the label?  Appreciate any thoughts if anybody even has a guess.  I've looking to replace one and just can't find info.

The model 2 PA cab I have that has 2 1016G speakers in it has a plate saying it's a 16ohm cab, but when I put the meter on it the DC resistance is 22ohms - and if DC resistance comes in less than actual impedence this makes me think these may really be 16 ohm speakers and the cabs may really be 32 ohm cabs despite the plate on the back listing them as 16 ohm. 

Am I thinking right on this - or totally overboard? 

[EdBass]

I'm not the most savvy when it comes to that era in Sunn's history, however...
I would think that the 108G and 1016G designations would indicate 8 and 16 ohm impedance versions of the same driver respectively, that would be in my experience a very "Hartzell Sunn" way of naming the drivers and it just makes sense. Labelling anomalies such as both drivers being labelled "8 Ohms" are regretfully also very common in the Hartzell era, as has been documented here in the past.
The same part number is pretty much a dead giveaway and "seals the deal" by my reckoning.
As I say I'm not claiming to be a "Hartzell Sunn" guru, and the above is purely speculation on my part, but I'd wager it's pretty close to the way it is/was.

As far as using them for guitar; who cares what they were originally designed for? Most speakers in those days and before weren't really specific to the actual applications, they were usually designated by frequency efficiency; e.g. "woofer", "midrange", "tweeter", etc.
Actually I would be surprised if Hartzell DIDN'T use that same driver in a variety of applications, that's how most manufacturers did it back then.

Hook one up to a guitar rig and see what happens. If it sounds good, I'd call it a guitar speaker.



Here's another point; does anyone feel that we really need two threads about this? Both cover almost identical ground, it's confusing to follow, and I can't find a way to combine them, at least so far.
So... Pick one fartheststar, and I'll dump the other one.
To recap; one 108G/1016G thread is plenty, both threads say the same thing, it's confusing and destined to become even more so as posts get added to both.
Let me know!

[fartheststar]

Ed - thanks for the reply.

I guess I'll apologize for my post on the other thread.  I had searched the web for hours for anything related to the speaker and saw somebody else had posted a few years ago about the speaker and responded for other like myself who might be looking.  It's one of the only things I could find anywhere about the speaker and when I saw the sticker it was the same thing as what I had - just a different model #.

Reason I asked about the other 1016g speaker was because I am needing to replacing the non-functional one - with what - I'm not sure.  I guess a modern 16 ohm guitar speaker since it doesn't seem to matter.

thanks again for the reply,  appreciated.  apologies for the other thread reply