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SUNN CABINET 610L???
« on: April 28, 2004, 07:20:46 pm »

Hi all ...Does anybody have any info on a Sunn 610L cabinet???

 I have one and was wanting to know what the thing is worth,what year it dates back to , what kind of speakers are in it..etc.......

  If anybody has one of these or has had one and can provide me with a little info on it  it would be greatly appreciated....


  I was thinking of selling it but decided to keep it and try to get a tube Amp Head for it.


Thanks Again for any help!!

Pete

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SUNN CABINET 610L???
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2004, 04:54:38 pm »

I have a shop drawing of the cabinet that was put out by Sunn in their service manual...  It probably had Eminence speakers and was most likely built between 68-71

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SUNN CABINET 610L???
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2004, 07:23:46 pm »

mine has 10" Sunn Transducers. I have the black-faced version.

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2004, 07:33:17 pm »

If they are the black faced speakers, they were made for Sunn by Eminence Speaker Corp. You can get the same speaker from Eminence on their website.

It probably was originally sold with a tube top Septre or Solarus or one of the early Concert tops, if it was sold in the 70's

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SUNN CABINET 610L???
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2004, 04:37:45 pm »

IIRC, the 610S, 612S, 312S and 415S all came out around 1974. Amps available at the time were the Model T, Concert Lead and Bass, and possibly the 100S. Coliseums too, I think. The 610L, with the black grill cloth and white baffle board, came out a year or two later, along with the Beta heads.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2004, 07:57:32 pm »

Issac, I believe you are right... I remember selling the 610 in my shop in the early 70's.  I had thought it was when I first started selling Sunn in 68.  
I sold cabinets with six ten inch speakers in the same configuration in 68-70 but they were ones we made in the shop.

I remember when the first 610 Sunn came out and thought about the finance guy, I think his name was Rich Stevens or Stevenson, looking at the ones we were building. Maybe that is where the idea came from.... who knows. :roll:

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SUNN CABINET 610L???
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2004, 08:55:41 am »

anybody have a copy of the wiring setup for these cabinets?

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2004, 01:59:00 pm »

I should have something in the service tech manual for all the models sold in the early 70's  

When I get back to the office on Tuesday, I will check.  Send me an email with your address and the cabinet model you need and I will send it if I have one.

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610 wiring and info
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2004, 10:53:25 am »

The wiring is a Series/Parallel and works out to 6 ohms

Most of the Sunn amps had an impedence envelope from 4-16 ohms  so anyconfiguration that you used, as long as the impedence stayed within that envelope was ok

If this doesn't make sense, let me know


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Additional info on 610

This was sold with the Concert Lead Amp

Speakers    6-10" Sunn (mfg by Eminence) Speakers

Enclosure Impedence   6 ohms

Enclosure Design    Front loaded horn, projector configuration

Enclosure Dimensions  42 1/2" x 24" x 15"   (with Casters)

Enclosure Weight    105 lbs

Recommended use    Guitar

Enclosure Resopse  500 htz to 12 Khz


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clarification on schematic
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2004, 11:05:47 am »

the drawing on my last response did not come through so I will try to explain

wire from the plug to the positive of left speaker in row one    

wire from the negative of the left speaker in row one to the positive of the right speaker in row one

wire from the negative of the right speaker in row one to the plug

wire from the positive of the left speaker in row one to the positive of the left speaker in row

wire from the negative of the left Speaker in row two to the positive of the right speaker in row two

Wire from the negative of the right speaker in row two to the negative of the right speaker in row one.

wire from the positive of the left speaker in row two to the positive of the
left speaker in row three.

wire from the negative of the left speaker in row three to the positive of the right speaker in row three

wire from the negative of the right speaker in row three to the negative of the right speaker in row two...


This is a Series/Parallel wiring configuration

if you need further help email me

richard@pennierich.com

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SUNN CABINET 610L???
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2004, 01:04:00 pm »

Great info! Thanks alot.

I'm gonna pull a couple speakers out of my 610 cab soon to get them reconed.



On a side note: isn't a 6ohm configuration a littly funky? I mean, isnt' there another way to wire the speakers to get something more like 8 or 4ohms...matching impedence with these cabs is kinda hard to do if you chain them with something else.

I've seen other newer 6X10 cabinets (Ampeg, SWR) that were 8ohms. What would be the difference in the wiring setup?

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2004, 03:23:22 pm »

With the impedence envelope and the use of slave amps, it was no problem to have 6 ohm cabinets.

The other 610 cabinets that have different impedence use speakers with different impedence to make the total ohms come out that way.

Unless it was someone, like Hendrix, who used Sunn and then bad mouthed the equipment and had it taken away because it was promo and free, most of the players used one or two cabinets. If they used more, they used the slave amps and the impedence was no problem.

That was another thing that Sunn had, hands down, over Fender.

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6x10
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2004, 11:51:27 am »

So the 6x10 was for guitar.  Any thoughts on how it would sound for bass?

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610 cabinet application
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2004, 04:36:25 pm »

The 610 L was a lead cabinet, thus the "L".

As far as using it for Bass, it would give a very bright sound and the speakers may not hold up because of the range of motion required to achieve the lower tones.

Sunn was noted for the clean sound and one of the most noted features was actually feeling the sound of the bass. Using the 610, in my opinion, may give a sound like the old Fender Bassman or a Marshall bottom. As a Bass player, I am most impressed by the clean low end without loss of tone in the mids and high notes that was a feature of the original Sunn equipment.