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Offline Colossus76

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Concert series amps........what is true?
« on: November 06, 2006, 10:11:59 pm »
i have read on here that the Concert series amps are 125, 150 and 200 watts at 4 ohms minimum. I have also read that some are rated at 2 ohms minimum. What is the correct rms wattage and what is the correct minimum impedence? Are there major differences in the early 70's models and the mid/late 70's models? I just want correct info on this series. Thanks.

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Re: Concert series amps........what is true?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 02:30:40 pm »

There are no major differences between the early and mid models of the concert.

Concerning the power amp, the primary differences in the later models vs the earlier models is an increase in emitter resistance from .27 ohms to .33 ohms, and the addition of a diode/resistor network between the output transistor base and speaker output/emitter (this would limit maximum signal input to the output transistors).

The later models are rated at 200 watts, probably achieved by a 2 ohm load.  Concerts prior to that are rated at 150 watts into a 4 ohm load.

For what it's worth, I would never drive a 4 transistor output stage into 2 ohms, especially 2N3055s which is what both early and late models use. Most transistor power amps capable of "easily" driving a 2 ohm load will have at least 6 if not 8 output transistors capable of handling the increased current.

It is simply not worth the extra 50 watts, which you probably won't even notice... to the life of the output stage.

But that's just me.  I would rather have an amp that will survive easily at 150 watts over taking a chance at 200 watts and failure.

There are other problems with running at 2 ohms, but I am too lazy to list them now.  Your mileage may vary.

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Re: Concert series amps........what is true?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2006, 04:33:34 am »
The one I bought but haven't received yet (big frown) has the red colored button faces and Red sun((()) in the logo.  I believe that is a later model, but don't know how late. Anyone know?  There are two speaker out connections simply labeled 1 and 2 with a note beneath that says "max output power 200W
Class 2 wiring may be used"  I'd sure like to know for sure what the min. Ohm capability is although I had already decided (on the same page with Joe) not to push below 4 ohms when I get cabs to run this baby through.  What  has me in a quandry now for picking out cabs is that I also just bought a 2000S off e-bay ($ 757.50) and want a cab system set-up to run 4 ohms for the Concert Bass and 8 ohms for the 2000S. (And also at 8 ohms to occasionally run my SUNN Solarus Guitar Head through..I have definetly become a Sunn-A-Holic).  I need a "Multi Purpose" cab set up.