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Offline gvan62

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Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« on: December 12, 2006, 08:44:05 pm »
Hi,

 My son has a SUNN Amp Model# alpha 210r. I was wondering if anyone knows where to find an owners manual for this thing. Also the speakers are pretty much "toast". Where would I go to get new speakers for this amp. It sounds really good, or at least it did. The paper cones are starting to come apart/torn, so it's now just about useless. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Gord

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 08:13:21 am »
Gord,

Getting new speakers depends on if you want to get replacements that are Sunn speakers or not.  If you want Sunns, browse the "classifieds" section of the forum and eBay, or post that you're looking for some in that section.  If you don't mind putting non-sunn speakers in, you could go to any music shop and get a pair of speakers, as long as they're the right size and power rating you're fine.


Unfortunately, there's no manual up on this site, but one of the forum members may have one that they can scan and email you.
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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2006, 05:57:04 pm »
If you don't mind putting non-sunn speakers in, you could go to any music shop and get a pair of speakers, as long as they're the right size and power rating you're fine.

What about impedence? You have a 50 watt @ 8 ohm amp, a pair of 8 ohms in series will put a serious load on that little amp. Also, you might want to try for GUITAR speakers. If you buy subwoofers, a pair of hi-fi woofers, or some car stereo garbage you might not be so "fine".
Advice is great and we can all benefit from it, but you should know what you're talking about before you give it.
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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2006, 06:01:43 pm »
Sorry for the vagueness Ed.

gvan62, Ed can give you what you need if you have questions as far as what ohms are correct for that amp.

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2006, 06:24:52 pm »
Looks like 8 ohm total load for 50 watts;

http://sunn.ampage.org/site/catalogs/1979/1979catp4.jpg

Probably two 4 ohm 10" speakers in parallel. Guitar speakers rated for at least 25 watts each.

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 06:15:34 pm »
Looks like 8 ohm total load for 50 watts;

http://sunn.ampage.org/site/catalogs/1979/1979catp4.jpg

Probably two 4 ohm 10" speakers in parallel. Guitar speakers rated for at least 25 watts each.
Two Sunn 4 ohm speakers in parallel? Didn't someone recently say something about advice?

gvan62, EdBass got it backwards. Two 4 ohm drivers in series, or two 16 ohm drivers in parallel.
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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2006, 06:41:36 pm »

Thanks Isaac... I was beginning to think I had just stepped into the twilight zone...

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2006, 07:51:23 pm »
Guys,

 I just want to replace the speakers using the original wire connectors. How the heck would I know if it is wired in series or parallel? I think I will go with a pair of 4 Ohm 10 inch speakers. Jensen makes an affordable model rated at 50 Watts RMS (MOD 10-50-4). I will also go to the local "Guitar Center", and ask a few questions. 

Thanks for all the input!!!!!

Gord

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2006, 05:59:16 pm »
Looks like 8 ohm total load for 50 watts;

http://sunn.ampage.org/site/catalogs/1979/1979catp4.jpg

Probably two 4 ohm 10" speakers in parallel. Guitar speakers rated for at least 25 watts each.
Two Sunn 4 ohm speakers in parallel? Didn't someone recently say something about advice?

gvan62, EdBass got it backwards. Two 4 ohm drivers in series, or two 16 ohm drivers in parallel.

Uhmm, I was just testing you guys to see if anybody was paying attention. Good job boys, you both passed!
In actuality that was just kharma biting me in the *ss for being a smart alec.
Maybe one of these days I'll learn...

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 04:10:01 pm »
Hi,

 For anyone who is interested, the original speakers in this amp were 16 ohm and wired in parallel. We have actually opted to get the speakers rebuilt to most closely maintain the original specs. We happened to find an extremely reputable shop for this right in our home town. The shop owner was able to get replacement cones exactly the same as the originals, so it should go well. I will let you all know how it sounds when finished!!

Gord

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 09:24:01 pm »
Glad to hear it, Gord, and hope it sounds good!

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Re: Need Help with SUNN alpha 210r Amp!!
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2007, 03:24:52 pm »
We got the speakers back.

Wow!!

Phenomenal sound. The thing rocks!!!

Special thanks to:

THE CIRCUIT SHOP
www.circuitshop.com

These guys are great. Super nice to deal with!!