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model t problem
« on: January 13, 2007, 07:59:44 pm »
hey everyone, i have a problem with my model t. I replaced my eh 6550s with jj/tesla kt88s and had the amp biased.well, when i got the amp back within a half hour one of the tubes lit up real bright and burnt out. Also, my amp started smoking. I took the amp back and a resistor was burnt up and of course the tube was bad.i ordered new
kt88s,had a 5 amp fuse installed to replace the circut breaker(it was bad too) and two new caps put in the amp.well, got the amp back, within 10 min. blew the fuse(at least i know the fuse works) anybody have any suggestions on what could be wrong? never had this problem with the 6550s.  thanks  :?

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Re: model t problem
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 01:06:56 am »
'got the amp back'...from who?
a good tech will know whats up w/ yer Model T.
my tech has knowledge and schematics of Sunn amps and while he doesnt really like to work on them-he is straight up w/ whats wrong and how to get them working again.
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Re: model t problem
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 09:28:26 am »

Tubes, being physical devices, can be manufactured with physical defects. Some may not be noticed until the tube has completely warmed up and can be overlooked when they are tested since testing doesn't usually allow sufficient warmup time.

That sounds like what happened with your tube, especially if it was only one. I had a tube do something similar one time - the grid was loose and when the tube warmed up it contacted the cathode, killing the bias causing it to overconduct and the plate to glow red.  I caught it in time... luckily.

The model T has either 47 or 50 ohm 5 watt resistors between the plates of the power tube and the output transformer.  The purpose of these resistors are to act like fuses by burning up if an output tube conducts too much current and protecting the output transformer.  DO NOT replace or allow a tech to replace these resistors with something more than a 5 watt resistor or you may be buying a new output transformer!!

The same goes for the 1.5K resistors on the screens of the output tube.

Take it back to the tech. Have the tech watch it for at least 10 minutes and determine what the problem is - could be a bunch of different things.

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Re: model t problem
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2007, 12:11:22 pm »
thanks for the replies

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Re: model t problem
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2007, 07:32:54 pm »
hello, The new resistor is a 47 ohm, but im no tech it looks ok.Everytime i put a new fuse in as soon as i turn the amp on it pops the fuse.I've talked to him he said he biased the kt88s to 60 -63 volts.That may not have anything to do with it but i thought i'd let you all know.Is that too much? I know the 6550s are about 55 volts give or take. I would take it back to him but he lives 4 hours away..Techs around here are obscure. THANKS