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Offline bk

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sunn solos
« on: March 05, 2009, 01:15:26 pm »
I thought that calculating speaker impedance was different for speakers wired in parallel or series...If two 8 ohm speakers were wired in parallel, then the rating would be 4 ohm total, but if they were wired in series, the total would be 16 ohms...maybe I've got them backwards...in any case, the manual says, "only use extension cabinets with an impedance of
8 ohms or more(e.g., 16 ohms) with your Pathfinder 15R"  and  "using an extension cab with an impedance of more than 8 ohms your amp output power will be reduced--it only produces its full output of 15 watts when presented with an 8 ohm speaker load"...


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Thanks for your replies...sorry for the duplicate post...the forum seems to wanna kick me out whenever I post a reply...

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 03:41:41 pm »
Yes, what you say is correct, but, again, you care only about the total impedance. The impedance of the individual drivers is irrelevant, unless you're going to try to run them separately, or if you need to calculate the impedance from the drivers rather than from the DC resistance.
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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 09:24:04 pm »
Thanks again Isaac for trying to teach me the basics...unfortunately, I'm as thick as a brick and don't quite get what you're saying regarding the impedance from the drivers rather than the DC resistance...maybe you could really dumb it down for me...can I run the pathfinder 15 watt amp into the Sunn solos speaker cab with the two 12 inch speakers?   Will it make a difference if they are wired in series or parallel?  Especially since I'm not sure of the indiviudal speaker impedances...   :|

You're probably about to scream right about now... :oops: Sorry to be so dense... :oops: I totally understand if give up on me, you wouldn't be the first, and won't be the last....thanks again for your responses and time...salud!  :-)

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 10:45:15 am »
I'll try.  It only matters what the total impedance of your cab is.
An 8 ohm cab is an 8 ohm cab regardless of whether it has:

2  4 ohm speakers wired in series = 8 ohms

or  2   16 ohm speakers wired parallel = 8 ohms

See?  The impedance of the individual speakers don't matter, only the end
result (DC resistance at the speaker cab input jack).

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 01:50:47 pm »
Thanks for your replies...I guess my next stupid question would be, how do I tell the total impedance of my cab?  On the back of the amp(the Sunn Solos) it has an 8 ohm extension jack...would that mean that the cab itself has a total impedance of 8 ohms?  If so, then it appears I can go from the Pathfinder 15R extension out jack into the Sunn cab(not talking about the Sunn ext out jack)....um, er, that is if I'm correct in my assumption...which I haven't been at all so far....thanks!!

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 09:46:21 am »
quick bump...any thoughts on the aforementioned?

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 06:26:03 pm »
All I can say is that you're probably right that the Solos has 8 ohm speakers. Sunn was usually good about impedance matching, and switching the transformer tap used. My guess - and I stress that it is only a guess - is that the internal speakers combine to 8 ohms, however it's done, and that plugging a second cabinet into the external speaker jack switches the output from the 8 ohm tap to the 4 ohm tap and puts both speakers in parallel for a total 4 ohm load.

As for the DC stuff, it goes like this. Speaker impedance varies quite a bit with frequency, so the nominal impedances are really only approximations, at best. However, if you measure the DC resistance of a speaker, you'll get a value close to, but lower than the nominal impedance. So, if you measure the DC resistance and get something like 6.3 ohms, it's reasonably safe to assume that it's an 8 ohm speaker.
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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2009, 01:43:20 pm »
I can't add anything technical but I was still amazed that there really was a "Solos" and not a "Solos II" which is what I had in the early 70's. Thought it was a typo. Until I saw one on ebay. This truely seems to be the predessor as it did not have the x20 distortion switch on the front panel so I was convinced. I always thought the DYMOS was the predessesor. That's what I get for thinking. I am going to look in the 69 or 70 catalog to see what they said about it.

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2009, 01:45:59 pm »
OK. This doesn't show up in the catalog thread, so exactly when did they make it (Solos) and how did they market it?

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 09:19:18 am »
good question about my solos I ... I bought mine second hand in about 1978-79...

I haven't found much info at all except a harmony central review for some guy who used it as a keyboard amp...post any info you find here as I'd be interested...schematics or anything...thanks all for your help in the aforementioned posts...still don't want to go into the Sunn from the Pathfinder amp until I know more...thanks again.

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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009, 03:03:25 pm »
better late than never...Pathfinder 15R amp into Sunn Solos speaker cab works...now another question  :?

Just picked up a '66 Bandmaster blackface...4 ohm amp...should be good to go into the Solos cab, right?   As you can plainly see, I still haven't figured out the whole speaker impedance, load, ohm stuff...weak, I know...for what its worth...

any help appreciated...


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Re: sunn solos
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2009, 09:59:43 am »
Yes, it should be fine.
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