200S Blueprints ?

[Greg_M]

I've got a drawing someone did of a cutaway of a 200S cabinet, but it has no dimensions.
Has anyone ever measured one up and made a construction print or cad file?
If I can't find one, maybe I could build one.

Is the covering material still available from somewhere?
How about the grill cloth?

[D.M.N.]

I recommend contacting Conrad. That's what I did when I built my 2000s cabinet. He emailed me an entire materials list and diagrams, for small fee. He can also provide the grill cloth, tolex, corners in 2- or 3- design, and proper casters.

[Greg_M]

Forgive my ignorance but...

Conrad?

[HRobert]

Forgive my ignorance but...

Conrad?

Oh lord!!! The Sunn gods will smite thee dead in your tracks for asking that question!!!!  Conrad Sundholm is T-H-E founder of Sunn Amps. 

[CLD]

Greg, take a look at the forum's home page and click on the category labeled "Conrad." You can learn a little more about him there, too.

[Greg_M]

Consider me smited 

[Greg_M]

Lets see if we can put together some dimensions for the 200S cabinet



Please give actual cabinet dimensions and not with casters or feet etc

A  Width
B  Height
C  Depth
D  Port Opening Height
E  Port Depth (from the front of the speaker mounting board to where it turns to go up and down)
F  Length of the two "wings"
G  Angle of the "wings"
H  Distance between the tip of the wings and the inside of the back panel


The Red "divider board" (wasn't there so I had to draw it in)


The next time someone has their's apart, maybe they can grab some of these dimensions and I will CAD up a drawing for us all to use

 

[HRobert]

Lets see if we can put together some dimensions for the 200S cabinet



Please give actual cabinet dimensions and not with casters or feet etc

A  Width
B  Height
C  Depth
D  Port Opening Height
E  Port Depth (from the front of the speaker mounting board to where it turns to go up and down)
F  Length of the two "wings"
G  Angle of the "wings"
H  Distance between the tip of the wings and the inside of the back panel


The Red "divider board" (wasn't there so I had to draw it in)


The next time someone has their's apart, maybe they can grab some of these dimensions and I will CAD up a drawing for us all to use

 

Greg,  I can give you some basics and perhaps someone with one of these cabs can give you more specifics....or you can use proprotional measurements.  The cab - without casters - is 40" high (B), 24" wide (A), and 15" deep (C).  the wood is 3/4" ply.

Also remember that the cabinet's horn design ( two wings as you call them ) was for a JBL D-140 ( a K-140 will fit also ) but other speakers may be too deep or possibly the magnet assembly too wide.  I know that a JBL E-140 won't fit because of the size of the magnet structure.

Rob

[Greg_M]

Thanks Rob
I have found one basket case D104F and will have it reconed.
One more to go.

I have started the cad drawing with your helpful dimensions.

[EdBass]

It just so happens that I have a 200S cab apart. I bought it from a guy who was going to make a project out of it, disassembled it, and then lost all of the hardware.
I'll get the missing measurements, however it's currently in a different zip code than I am, and...

It's in a chipboard road case buried in "row three" in one of my storage areas, a work bench and two rows further from the door than the easy access "gear I may need in a hurry" row pictured;



I need to go there pick up a couple of the JBL monitors to use this weekend, I'll try to get there early enough to dig it out and measure it while I'm there.

It would be really cool to have an accurate CAD of a 200S cab for reference.

[Greg_M]

Nice collection!   

[HRobert]

EdBass.  Hey guy, why don't you go out and buy some more equipment.  There are places on your floor where one can still walk

[ROCKETBRO2]

I like how he knows the location of it like he has a pirate map for his gear.

[HRobert]

Thanks Rob
I have found one basket case D104F and will have it reconed.
One more to go.

I have started the cad drawing with your helpful dimensions.

Greg,  When I was looking for 1960's D-130's for my 230B Sentura II clone cabs I found that they were very expensive - even the baskets went for a premium.  I bought 4, 1970's "K" series, and am very, very happy with the sound.  Physically the frames and the magnet bell of the K's look exactly the same as the "D", except they're black instead of grey, and I think that the connecting posts are a little different.  There were a couple of improvements in the motor design from the "D" to the "K" series; the gap is a couple thousandths" wider and the K's had the start of what JBL called "Field Focused Geometry" that was prevelant in the "E" series.  Also the cone has a cloth surround as opposed to paper as in the "D" series.    The frequency response of the K-140 is the same as the D-140; 40-2500 Hz, but it handles more power; 150 watts RMS as opposed to 100 - 125 W for the "D".  Some guitar people I've talked to swear that the paper surround cone sounds better than the cloth surround cone...but I can't tell the difference.  maybe that's because I play keyboards and not guitar or bass.

Rob