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Offline OTTO

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Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« on: March 31, 2011, 10:26:52 pm »
I want a poll on what the best amp would be for bass pushing 8x10
and occasional guitar duty..

I dont want to spend more than $300....


Offline Walt-Dogg

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 11:17:30 pm »
Find a cheap red knob Concert Lead, amazing for guitar or bass.
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Offline pickinatit

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2011, 07:27:25 am »
Find a cheap red knob Concert Lead, amazing for guitar or bass.

Conversely,  the concert bass amp isn't bad for guitar. 

If you want to go the tube route, I have my Solarus Head at our practice space plugged into an Avatar 2X12 bass cab and I use that for bass or guitar at rehearsal.  Sweet bass tones and takes pedals great.  It's the 40 watt piggyback head so as far as using it for bass it wouldn't cut it for most gig situations I don't think unless you miked it to a PA.  You could probably get enough stage volume out of it though.  For guitar, it's a different story. That 40 watter is hellaciously loud!!

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2011, 10:15:16 pm »
thx for the input...

CAN a CONCERT LEAD push and ampeg 8x10 cab?!?!?!  :mrgreen:

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2011, 11:00:41 pm »
thx for the input...

CAN a CONCERT LEAD push and ampeg 8x10 cab?!?!?!  :mrgreen:

What does that mean? You probably need to be more specific, that question doesn't make any sense; at least to me anyway.
It will "push" it as hard as the Concert Lead can "push" anything; about 150 watts worth with a 4 ohm load I believe. It will be louder with two Ampeg 8x10's, and louder still with four of them. The more the merrier provided you can configure them to run at the lowest safe impedance the Concert Lead can handle.
Is that what you want to know?

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 11:26:52 pm »
sorry ed, im terrible with my lingo.. I guess that does answer my question.

I just didn't want to get a concert lead if it was going to have trouble getting adequate
volume live for bass (or being ran into my ampeg 8x10)

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 12:17:27 am »
sorry ed, im terrible with my lingo.. I guess that does answer my question.

I just didn't want to get a concert lead if it was going to have trouble getting adequate
volume
live for bass (or being ran into my ampeg 8x10)

Not to be difficult, but that depends on what you consider "adequate".   :wink:

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 02:37:06 pm »
haha.. well it will be competing with a soldano avenger through two sunn
 412s towers + ampeg vh140 through a sunn 412L

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2011, 03:25:16 pm »
hmmm...that doesnt mean much either. that setup could be a couple dbs-or a couple hundred dbs.
this is the 'vague' thread :?
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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2011, 03:40:58 pm »
That still leaves too many variables to give a definite answer, so I'm going to guess that you are probably playing loud from the stage rather than letting a PA do the "heavy lifting".
I think Soldano Avengers come in 50 watt and 100 watt versions; doesn't really matter, IMO either one cranked up through 8 12's will have the capability to bury a Concert Lead and a 8x10 in the mix. If you are running reasonable SPL (like playing to the level of a normal drummer) on stage and using PA reinforcement it will probably hold its own. I'm not familiar with the Ampeg VH140.

Get the tube SVT that is supposed to be used with that 810 cab and you should have plenty of horsepower to keep up regardless of what the guitar(s) are doing.

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 09:00:21 pm »
Yes, amps will be cranked... LOUD LOUD LOUD.

i had the svt and sold it  :cry: ...

would you say that the coliseum slave would work well as a bass amp? through the 8x10?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunn-Coliseum-Slave-Vintage-70s-Guitar-bass-power-Amp-/130505259751?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e62b83ae7#ht_500wt_1156

thanks again for answering my "vague" questions :)

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Re: Best Sunn for dual-duty BASS OR GUITAR
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 09:45:08 am »
Yes, amps will be cranked... LOUD LOUD LOUD.

i had the svt and sold it  :cry: ...

would you say that the coliseum slave would work well as a bass amp? through the 8x10?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunn-Coliseum-Slave-Vintage-70s-Guitar-bass-power-Amp-/130505259751?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e62b83ae7#ht_500wt_1156

thanks again for answering my "vague" questions :)

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